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		<title>By: J. Ewing</title>
		<link>http://www.eckernet.com/2008/05/the_black_helicopters_are_circling.html/comment-page-1#comment-3607</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Ewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now the North American Union is nothing but a black helicopter, conspiracy theory urban legend.  There is no official proposal to have one, no one has really outlined the details of what one should look like but the words are oh, so scary, reminiscent of the European Union which barely works there, and certainly wouldn&#039;t work here having seen their example.  There is no secret treaty called the &quot;Security and Prosperity Partnership,&quot; though a small bureau was established in 2005 for ongoing low-level diplomatic contacts on trade and security issues.  And that&#039;s all.

Likewise, abolishing the Federal Reserve is a ridiculous idea.  The theory that this group of private bankers is inflating the currency is a valid complaint, but abolishing the Fed returns control of the money supply to ... Congress!  Is that really the best idea?

These are all Ron Paul ideas, and while they are (almost) all grounded in some solid conservative principle, somewhere, too many of them are outrageously impractical or downright delusional.

Those who want to vote for somebody not on the ballot in November should, in my opinion, be prepared to accept the consequences of their vote.  The best person for the job is NOT on the ballot, so if you won&#039;t choose the lesser of two evils, you will get the greater.  Why can&#039;t some people understand that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now the North American Union is nothing but a black helicopter, conspiracy theory urban legend.  There is no official proposal to have one, no one has really outlined the details of what one should look like but the words are oh, so scary, reminiscent of the European Union which barely works there, and certainly wouldn&#8217;t work here having seen their example.  There is no secret treaty called the &#8220;Security and Prosperity Partnership,&#8221; though a small bureau was established in 2005 for ongoing low-level diplomatic contacts on trade and security issues.  And that&#8217;s all.</p>
<p>Likewise, abolishing the Federal Reserve is a ridiculous idea.  The theory that this group of private bankers is inflating the currency is a valid complaint, but abolishing the Fed returns control of the money supply to &#8230; Congress!  Is that really the best idea?</p>
<p>These are all Ron Paul ideas, and while they are (almost) all grounded in some solid conservative principle, somewhere, too many of them are outrageously impractical or downright delusional.</p>
<p>Those who want to vote for somebody not on the ballot in November should, in my opinion, be prepared to accept the consequences of their vote.  The best person for the job is NOT on the ballot, so if you won&#8217;t choose the lesser of two evils, you will get the greater.  Why can&#8217;t some people understand that?</p>
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		<title>By: J. Ewing</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Ewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, a guy gets busy for a few days and the wack jobs have a field day.

Kevin, you had the most brilliant point several posts ago, in talking about the Override Six.  There is a positive example of how to realize conservative principles.  That is, elect any Republican you can until you can find a better one.  The further the one you have drifts to the left, the easier it is to find one that&#039;s better.   Replacing the Republican you /could/ have with nobody, by voting for &quot;nobody&quot; is.... let me choose my words carefully.... STUPID.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, a guy gets busy for a few days and the wack jobs have a field day.</p>
<p>Kevin, you had the most brilliant point several posts ago, in talking about the Override Six.  There is a positive example of how to realize conservative principles.  That is, elect any Republican you can until you can find a better one.  The further the one you have drifts to the left, the easier it is to find one that&#8217;s better.   Replacing the Republican you /could/ have with nobody, by voting for &#8220;nobody&#8221; is&#8230;. let me choose my words carefully&#8230;. STUPID.</p>
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		<title>By: Wills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great analogy.  I&#039;d call the fire department - hopefully a non-publicly funded one.

If I were you, however, the correct response to a fire in your house would be to hunt down Prometheus and kill him, his family, and anyone who used fire to his or her benefit.

If the above paragraph seems irrational to you, perhaps you should re-examine your position on the war on terror.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great analogy.  I&#8217;d call the fire department &#8211; hopefully a non-publicly funded one.</p>
<p>If I were you, however, the correct response to a fire in your house would be to hunt down Prometheus and kill him, his family, and anyone who used fire to his or her benefit.</p>
<p>If the above paragraph seems irrational to you, perhaps you should re-examine your position on the war on terror.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you are just as guilty as anyone.

Still on the chickenhawk gambit huh?

I suppose if your house starts on fire you wouldn&#039;t call in the fire department either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you are just as guilty as anyone.</p>
<p>Still on the chickenhawk gambit huh?</p>
<p>I suppose if your house starts on fire you wouldn&#8217;t call in the fire department either.</p>
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		<title>By: Wills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snappy, well done.  Insults are at a premium on this site - sadly logic is in demand.

So?  Patriot, will you do your duty and become a mercenary so the (ha) rest of us can sleep soundly under the warm blanket of freedom that you provide?  ... Or will you sit there like the rest of the numbskulls and fight the war from your computer desk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snappy, well done.  Insults are at a premium on this site &#8211; sadly logic is in demand.</p>
<p>So?  Patriot, will you do your duty and become a mercenary so the (ha) rest of us can sleep soundly under the warm blanket of freedom that you provide?  &#8230; Or will you sit there like the rest of the numbskulls and fight the war from your computer desk?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now I&#039;m not sure if the thing that America needs a defense from the most is people like you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now I&#8217;m not sure if the thing that America needs a defense from the most is people like you.</p>
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		<title>By: Wills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 22:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, chickenhawk.  Absolutely.

Congress authorized force, aka an invasion of another sovereign nation.  I saw no declaration of war anywhere in there, did you?  Did I miss something?

Ah yes, you took the bait - troops equated with mercenaries.  I recommend re-reading my comment because you are clearly confused.  You are about a half step quicker than Sakaki in that you know how to run a blog, but you are saddled with the same thick skull that prevents detachment from emotional response.

I&#039;ll repeat: if you think our country is in danger from &quot;terror&quot; then you should sign up to become a mercenary (NOT a soldier).  This way, you don&#039;t affect anyone who does NOT want to be overseas &quot;defending&quot; America and instead joined the military to defend America at home.  It&#039;s really not a hard concept to grasp, Kevin.  Put down the FOX news for a minute and try to concentrate on the words...and let your brain work a little.

In other words: fight your war, but don&#039;t inhibit my life, because I want no part in this ridiculous conflict.

I eagerly anticipate your correspondence from wherever you determine America needs defense the most: Afghanistan, Korea, Japan, Iraq, Djibouti, Panama, etc.  Go on, brave one, fight that fight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, chickenhawk.  Absolutely.</p>
<p>Congress authorized force, aka an invasion of another sovereign nation.  I saw no declaration of war anywhere in there, did you?  Did I miss something?</p>
<p>Ah yes, you took the bait &#8211; troops equated with mercenaries.  I recommend re-reading my comment because you are clearly confused.  You are about a half step quicker than Sakaki in that you know how to run a blog, but you are saddled with the same thick skull that prevents detachment from emotional response.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll repeat: if you think our country is in danger from &#8220;terror&#8221; then you should sign up to become a mercenary (NOT a soldier).  This way, you don&#8217;t affect anyone who does NOT want to be overseas &#8220;defending&#8221; America and instead joined the military to defend America at home.  It&#8217;s really not a hard concept to grasp, Kevin.  Put down the FOX news for a minute and try to concentrate on the words&#8230;and let your brain work a little.</p>
<p>In other words: fight your war, but don&#8217;t inhibit my life, because I want no part in this ridiculous conflict.</p>
<p>I eagerly anticipate your correspondence from wherever you determine America needs defense the most: Afghanistan, Korea, Japan, Iraq, Djibouti, Panama, etc.  Go on, brave one, fight that fight!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You criticize my mindless pre-packaged political cliches and then you launch right into a chickenhawk argument???

Physician, heal thyself.

Mercenaries killing, maiming, raping, destroying?? That is how you view what our troops are doing???  You show more than you think about your viewpoints.  Your despicable nature is revealed.

The constitutional case for intervention.  Congress authorized it as it has the constitutional right to do so, the President enforced it.  The Judiciary has yet to say anything is wrong with it.  Case dismissed.

I can&#039;t say I see much &quot;logic&quot; in your statements either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You criticize my mindless pre-packaged political cliches and then you launch right into a chickenhawk argument???</p>
<p>Physician, heal thyself.</p>
<p>Mercenaries killing, maiming, raping, destroying?? That is how you view what our troops are doing???  You show more than you think about your viewpoints.  Your despicable nature is revealed.</p>
<p>The constitutional case for intervention.  Congress authorized it as it has the constitutional right to do so, the President enforced it.  The Judiciary has yet to say anything is wrong with it.  Case dismissed.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say I see much &#8220;logic&#8221; in your statements either.</p>
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		<title>By: Wills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sakaki:

More drivel.  &quot;It won&#039;t work&quot; is replaced by &quot;won&#039;t be able to get out of for 20 years.&quot;  Well done, I&#039;m thoroughly convinced.  Sheesh, logic is lost on people...and often.

I&#039;m still waiting to hear the Constitutional case for Iraqi intervention.  C&#039;mon you freedom lovin&#039; patriots--make the case!

Getting rid of the Federal Reserve and removing troops from Iraq--and everywhere else around the world--are two of the BEST things that could happen to America.

Reason 1: I kind of like knowing my money will be worth something in a few years, let alone a few days.  The Federal Reserve has failed to achieve every one of its stated goals, and failed miserably.  By any other measure that institution would have dried up a long time ago...and yet economic cave men like yourself STILL see it as a good thing.  My oh my how some people enjoy torture!

Reason 2:  No one is saying we can&#039;t have an &quot;American&quot; presence in the Middle East.  If you are so concerned about the safety and security of the Iraqis, by all means, go and fight.  Become a mercenary, and fight, kill, maim, rape, destroy to your hearts content.  But please, don&#039;t fill me full of crap about how our country needs to drain its coffers and kill her citizens to fight an illegal war and occupy a country in the name of &quot;fighting terror.&quot;  Do NOT drag me--and any other citizen who values freedom and liberty--into YOUR fight against Islamofascism...a laughable term if there ever was one.

Nowhere have I stated I supported Ron Paul.  I know if I  repeat this often enough eventually it will permeate your four-inch thick skull, Sakaki.  Repeat it to yourself if needed: I&#039;ve never said I support Ron Paul.  Repeat.  Again.  Repeat.   Again.

Until then, I&#039;ll expect you and Kevin to be first in line to volunteer to go to the ends of the earth to &quot;defend&quot; America.  PT Barum was right: there&#039;s a sucker born every minute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sakaki:</p>
<p>More drivel.  &#8220;It won&#8217;t work&#8221; is replaced by &#8220;won&#8217;t be able to get out of for 20 years.&#8221;  Well done, I&#8217;m thoroughly convinced.  Sheesh, logic is lost on people&#8230;and often.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still waiting to hear the Constitutional case for Iraqi intervention.  C&#8217;mon you freedom lovin&#8217; patriots&#8211;make the case!</p>
<p>Getting rid of the Federal Reserve and removing troops from Iraq&#8211;and everywhere else around the world&#8211;are two of the BEST things that could happen to America.</p>
<p>Reason 1: I kind of like knowing my money will be worth something in a few years, let alone a few days.  The Federal Reserve has failed to achieve every one of its stated goals, and failed miserably.  By any other measure that institution would have dried up a long time ago&#8230;and yet economic cave men like yourself STILL see it as a good thing.  My oh my how some people enjoy torture!</p>
<p>Reason 2:  No one is saying we can&#8217;t have an &#8220;American&#8221; presence in the Middle East.  If you are so concerned about the safety and security of the Iraqis, by all means, go and fight.  Become a mercenary, and fight, kill, maim, rape, destroy to your hearts content.  But please, don&#8217;t fill me full of crap about how our country needs to drain its coffers and kill her citizens to fight an illegal war and occupy a country in the name of &#8220;fighting terror.&#8221;  Do NOT drag me&#8211;and any other citizen who values freedom and liberty&#8211;into YOUR fight against Islamofascism&#8230;a laughable term if there ever was one.</p>
<p>Nowhere have I stated I supported Ron Paul.  I know if I  repeat this often enough eventually it will permeate your four-inch thick skull, Sakaki.  Repeat it to yourself if needed: I&#8217;ve never said I support Ron Paul.  Repeat.  Again.  Repeat.   Again.</p>
<p>Until then, I&#8217;ll expect you and Kevin to be first in line to volunteer to go to the ends of the earth to &#8220;defend&#8221; America.  PT Barum was right: there&#8217;s a sucker born every minute.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 19:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would definitely disagree that the NAU is going to happen.

I can&#039;t see a chance in hell of it happening....ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would definitely disagree that the NAU is going to happen.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t see a chance in hell of it happening&#8230;.ever.</p>
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