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		<title>By: Shot in the Dark &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Counting The Minutes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shot in the Dark &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Counting The Minutes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] essentially twisting in the wind. Is I wrote previously, SCOTUS made it clear from the start that their decision would be limited to the case at hand, which is an issue of private [...]</description>
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		<title>By: EckerNet.Com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Two Big SCOTUS Cases Potentially Announced Today</title>
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		<dc:creator>EckerNet.Com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Two Big SCOTUS Cases Potentially Announced Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] essentially twisting in the wind. Is I wrote previously, SCOTUS made it clear from the start that their decision would be limited to the case at hand, which is an issue of private [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you cherry pick quotes that is indeed the impression one might be left with.

However, if you read the rest of the oral arguments and also go look at many of the works/authors/statements they refer to you&#039;ll find that the framers were NOT referring to a well organized militia.

Rather they were referring to the public needs to be armed in the case that a militia needs to be formed (whose members provide their own arms) to counter a tyrannical government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you cherry pick quotes that is indeed the impression one might be left with.</p>
<p>However, if you read the rest of the oral arguments and also go look at many of the works/authors/statements they refer to you&#8217;ll find that the framers were NOT referring to a well organized militia.</p>
<p>Rather they were referring to the public needs to be armed in the case that a militia needs to be formed (whose members provide their own arms) to counter a tyrannical government.</p>
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		<title>By: David Pogue</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Pogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 20:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reading the oral arguments I found it interesting that Justice Steven&#039;s line of questioning was about self defense with guns being granted by only three states after the 2nd Ammendment was adopted.

That the rest were talking about collective right to self defense in having weapons as a right.

from the transscript:

JUSTICE STEVENS: How do you explain the
fact that you include self-defense, but only two States,
Pennsylvania and Vermont, did refer to self-defense as a
permissible justification and all of the others referred
to common defense or defense of the State, and in the
Articles of Confederation and the Constitution itself
there is no reference to self-defense?

JUSTICE STEVENS: Just the text of the State
constitutional provisions, two of them refer to
self-defense. The rest refer only to common defense; is
that not correct?

Maybe the framers were talking only about the right to keep and bear arms within the context of a well organized militia? :???:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reading the oral arguments I found it interesting that Justice Steven&#8217;s line of questioning was about self defense with guns being granted by only three states after the 2nd Ammendment was adopted.</p>
<p>That the rest were talking about collective right to self defense in having weapons as a right.</p>
<p>from the transscript:</p>
<p>JUSTICE STEVENS: How do you explain the<br />
fact that you include self-defense, but only two States,<br />
Pennsylvania and Vermont, did refer to self-defense as a<br />
permissible justification and all of the others referred<br />
to common defense or defense of the State, and in the<br />
Articles of Confederation and the Constitution itself<br />
there is no reference to self-defense?</p>
<p>JUSTICE STEVENS: Just the text of the State<br />
constitutional provisions, two of them refer to<br />
self-defense. The rest refer only to common defense; is<br />
that not correct?</p>
<p>Maybe the framers were talking only about the right to keep and bear arms within the context of a well organized militia? <img src='http://www.eckernet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':???:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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