Comments on: Cedar Avenue \”Future\” http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html Pissing you off and making you laugh since 2002 Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:55:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Kevin http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html/comment-page-1#comment-3164 Kevin Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:11:25 +0000 http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html#comment-3164 A whole number of comments there "Bdubs". 1) Who is paying for it 2) Who has to look at a frigging trench 3) What is the likely impact of this trench through the middle of our city? 4) This death star trench would have done no appreciable improvement upon option 2, by their own numbers Considering your statements above I'm guessing you're the guy that thought of this stupid ass idea right? A whole number of comments there “Bdubs”.

1) Who is paying for it
2) Who has to look at a frigging trench
3) What is the likely impact of this trench through the middle of our city?
4) This death star trench would have done no appreciable improvement upon option 2, by their own numbers

Considering your statements above I’m guessing you’re the guy that thought of this stupid ass idea right?

]]> By: Bdubs http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html/comment-page-1#comment-3163 Bdubs Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:39:52 +0000 http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html#comment-3163 I have to disagree with your criticism and characterization of the express lane options. It seems that you forget that Cedar Avenue serves more than just Apple Valley residents. In fact, much of the traffic (and congestion) is caused by people coming from the some of the fastest growing suburbs in the state: Lakeville and Farmington. Those express lanes would take that through-traffic off of the surface. Frankly, I think what you call the "death star trench" option would have done the most to improve both local and thru-traffic. I have to disagree with your criticism and characterization of the express lane options. It seems that you forget that Cedar Avenue serves more than just Apple Valley residents. In fact, much of the traffic (and congestion) is caused by people coming from the some of the fastest growing suburbs in the state: Lakeville and Farmington. Those express lanes would take that through-traffic off of the surface. Frankly, I think what you call the “death star trench” option would have done the most to improve both local and thru-traffic.

]]> By: EckerNet.Com » Blog Archive » Dakota County Residents http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html/comment-page-1#comment-3162 EckerNet.Com » Blog Archive » Dakota County Residents Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:58:06 +0000 http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html#comment-3162 [...] doesn’t it? Also sounds expensive. Brought to you by the same people that thought the Star Wars Trench was a neat transit [...] [...] doesn’t it? Also sounds expensive. Brought to you by the same people that thought the Star Wars Trench was a neat transit [...]

]]> By: EckerNet.Com » Blog Archive » Cedar Avenue Update http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html/comment-page-1#comment-3161 EckerNet.Com » Blog Archive » Cedar Avenue Update Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:31:43 +0000 http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html#comment-3161 [...] Back in November, I attended the Open House regarding the Cedar Avenue Corridor development ideas, and later wrote about the sheer stupidity I found there. Well recently the Apple Valley City Council announced it’s unanimous decision to recommend option two, which I nicknamed the Suburban Highway. While I wasn’t entirely happy with any of the options, at least they didn’t pick the Death Star Trench option. [...] [...] Back in November, I attended the Open House regarding the Cedar Avenue Corridor development ideas, and later wrote about the sheer stupidity I found there. Well recently the Apple Valley City Council announced it’s unanimous decision to recommend option two, which I nicknamed the Suburban Highway. While I wasn’t entirely happy with any of the options, at least they didn’t pick the Death Star Trench option. [...]

]]> By: EckerNet.Com » Blog Archive » Cedar Avenue Update http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html/comment-page-1#comment-3160 EckerNet.Com » Blog Archive » Cedar Avenue Update Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:31:42 +0000 http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html#comment-3160 [...] the Open House regarding the Cedar Avenue Corridor development ideas, and later wrote about the sheer stupidity I found there. Well recently the Apple Valley City Council announced it’s unanimous decision to recommend [...] [...] the Open House regarding the Cedar Avenue Corridor development ideas, and later wrote about the sheer stupidity I found there. Well recently the Apple Valley City Council announced it’s unanimous decision to recommend [...]

]]> By: Kevin http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html/comment-page-1#comment-3159 Kevin Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:14:27 +0000 http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html#comment-3159 Widening an existing freeway in Minneapolis is hardly comparable to digging a 4-lane trench in the middle of a suburban street. I'm sorry you can't understand the difference. Widening an existing freeway in Minneapolis is hardly comparable to digging a 4-lane trench in the middle of a suburban street.

I’m sorry you can’t understand the difference.

]]> By: Eva Young http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html/comment-page-1#comment-3158 Eva Young Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:09:51 +0000 http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html#comment-3158 Now you know how some of us in Minneapolis feel about the constant efforts by MNDOT to widen freeways in Minneapolis - which takes taxable property - and provides a through way for those not coming to the city but through the city. Now you know how some of us in Minneapolis feel about the constant efforts by MNDOT to widen freeways in Minneapolis – which takes taxable property – and provides a through way for those not coming to the city but through the city.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html/comment-page-1#comment-3157 Kevin Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:36:05 +0000 http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html#comment-3157 Time to switch to decaf buddy. Time to switch to decaf buddy.

]]> By: deano http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html/comment-page-1#comment-3156 deano Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:05:10 +0000 http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html#comment-3156 Apple Valley gets what it deserves. I've been traveling on Cedar ave for about 30 years. You could see the traffic problems coming for a long time. Mega-Targets, jumbo-Menards, dozens of strip malls, and totally unchecked development have outpaced the infrastructure. Most of this commercial development is a response to market demand and that's great. The traffic congestion in AV, Burnsville, etc. is mainly the result of a lack of planning and oversight by local government bodies. You folks down there had a chance to make this work years ago, but that horse has left the barn. These days, I just take I-35 past your traffic mess. Apple Valley gets what it deserves. I’ve been traveling on Cedar ave for about 30 years. You could see the traffic problems coming for a long time. Mega-Targets, jumbo-Menards, dozens of strip malls, and totally unchecked development have outpaced the infrastructure. Most of this commercial development is a response to market demand and that’s great. The traffic congestion in AV, Burnsville, etc. is mainly the result of a lack of planning and oversight by local government bodies. You folks down there had a chance to make this work years ago, but that horse has left the barn. These days, I just take I-35 past your traffic mess.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html/comment-page-1#comment-3155 Kevin Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:59:59 +0000 http://www.eckernet.com/2007/11/cedar_avenue_future.html#comment-3155 1) Um, no 2) Actually they considered light rail but realized nobody rides on it so it wouldn't be worth it. That's almost a direct quote too! :) Too bad they didn't realize that before they blew all sorts of money on Hiawatha. 3) Oh they think they'll be able to handle rain, although their explanation didn't sound too convincing, as it basically amounts to the same thing they do on 494. And as you point out, that worked out just swell! They want to have all of this in place by 2015. So I get 8 years of construction right by my house! Oh yeah! 1) Um, no

2) Actually they considered light rail but realized nobody rides on it so it wouldn’t be worth it. That’s almost a direct quote too! :) Too bad they didn’t realize that before they blew all sorts of money on Hiawatha.

3) Oh they think they’ll be able to handle rain, although their explanation didn’t sound too convincing, as it basically amounts to the same thing they do on 494. And as you point out, that worked out just swell!

They want to have all of this in place by 2015. So I get 8 years of construction right by my house! Oh yeah!

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