Comments on: Progress On All Immigration Fronts http://www.eckernet.com/2007/09/progress_on_all_immigration_fronts.html Pissing you off and making you laugh since 2002 Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:40:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: J. Ewing http://www.eckernet.com/2007/09/progress_on_all_immigration_fronts.html/comment-page-1#comment-3073 J. Ewing Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:35:28 +0000 http://www.eckernet.com/2007/09/progress_on_all_immigration_fronts.html#comment-3073 Exactly. The trick is translating those clues into a realistic answer as to how many is "many"? For instance, if you pay a coyote %500, how much do you have left if you get deported? Of all the money you sent home, how long can you live if you have to go back? And what percentage of people CAN'T go back because they had nothing, or because they've been here so long there's nothing left? I'm all for putting a stop to the illegality, but I'm not going to impose the death penalty on people. That's why I like the suggestion abouts about "touchback" provisions. Those in the category you describe can afford to go back "home," at least briefly, and come back in legally. Exactly. The trick is translating those clues into a realistic answer as to how many is “many”?

For instance, if you pay a coyote %500, how much do you have left if you get deported? Of all the money you sent home, how long can you live if you have to go back? And what percentage of people CAN’T go back because they had nothing, or because they’ve been here so long there’s nothing left? I’m all for putting a stop to the illegality, but I’m not going to impose the death penalty on people. That’s why I like the suggestion abouts about “touchback” provisions. Those in the category you describe can afford to go back “home,” at least briefly, and come back in legally.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.eckernet.com/2007/09/progress_on_all_immigration_fronts.html/comment-page-1#comment-3072 Kevin Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:21:49 +0000 http://www.eckernet.com/2007/09/progress_on_all_immigration_fronts.html#comment-3072 Considering that many of the border crossers are paying coyotes thousands to get them across the border, I suspect that the number that are "desperately poor" is smaller than they'd like us to think. But it makes for a good story for sympathy points Plus consider how much cash illegals send back home. I don't have the figures on me at the moment and no time to look them up, but it's a massive sum. Considering that many of the border crossers are paying coyotes thousands to get them across the border, I suspect that the number that are “desperately poor” is smaller than they’d like us to think. But it makes for a good story for sympathy points

Plus consider how much cash illegals send back home. I don’t have the figures on me at the moment and no time to look them up, but it’s a massive sum.

]]> By: J. Ewing http://www.eckernet.com/2007/09/progress_on_all_immigration_fronts.html/comment-page-1#comment-3071 J. Ewing Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:54:47 +0000 http://www.eckernet.com/2007/09/progress_on_all_immigration_fronts.html#comment-3071 Well, that's certainly good news, but we still have the AgJobs thing to contend with, right? I just don't know what these people in Congress are thinking! Maybe that's not a proper question? As for the "self deportation" thing, I think you've got a bit of Dream Act going on yourself. Or else I don't understand the nature of illegal immigration. It has always been my assumption that these people are desparately poor, coming across the border in dire hardship to make a better life and a better living. They would never voluntarily return, because it would be a death sentence for them. Moving to other states, sure, that I can undetstand, but a federal crackdown would then create a humanitarian crisis, particularly for those who have been here many years and have nothing to go back to, and those who were born here are already "back." It's highly unfortunate that we do not even know enough about these border-jumpers to know if they are just opportunists who COULD survive "back home" or if they are truly last-gasp refugees. Maybe that's why I have a lot more sympathy for those who have been here a long time, because they would have nothing to return to. Well, that’s certainly good news, but we still have the AgJobs thing to contend with, right? I just don’t know what these people in Congress are thinking! Maybe that’s not a proper question?

As for the “self deportation” thing, I think you’ve got a bit of Dream Act going on yourself. Or else I don’t understand the nature of illegal immigration. It has always been my assumption that these people are desparately poor, coming across the border in dire hardship to make a better life and a better living. They would never voluntarily return, because it would be a death sentence for them. Moving to other states, sure, that I can undetstand, but a federal crackdown would then create a humanitarian crisis, particularly for those who have been here many years and have nothing to go back to, and those who were born here are already “back.”

It’s highly unfortunate that we do not even know enough about these border-jumpers to know if they are just opportunists who COULD survive “back home” or if they are truly last-gasp refugees. Maybe that’s why I have a lot more sympathy for those who have been here a long time, because they would have nothing to return to.

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