Wow, you want me to sum today’s Senate action for you??
“Clusterfuck”
Want me to spell it out more???
“I’ve seen Boy Scout troops run more orderly than this Senate….although admittedly the Boy Scouts have adult supervision.”
I don’t think today could have been more disorderly if every member of Congress was drunk. Right out of the gate they hit a roadblock. Remember that massive clay pigeon amendment that was released yesterday?? Well turns out they don’t make clay like they used to. Errors and omissions abounded and Reid had to have his staff rewrite the thing.
So most of the day, Senators were debating a bill that didn’t even exist yet. And it didn’t exist until almost 2 pm, when Senator Sessions was literally handed the bill while he was complaining at the podium that they didn’t even have copies of the bill yet. In the meantime, Senator Reid is basically telling everyone “trust me” there are only “minor changes” to the amendment, just “trust me”. Yeah, we’re all just supposed to take Reid at his word regarding one of the biggest pieces of legislation they’ve touched so far.
Finally Senators get the damn thing, so we have a 300+ page document that they are supposed to end debate on tomorrow and nobody gets it until 2 pm?? Yup, that’s our Senate.
While waiting for the clay pigeon amendment, Senators kept trying to offer amendments, but Senator Reid basically used the procedural equivalent of “LALALALLALALALALALALAL, I CAN’T HEAR YOU WHILE I’M SINGING, LALALALALALA“. Yup, this is our Senate.
All of you who thought it was okay to vote for cloture yesterday because “the only way this bill can be improved is if it comes up for a vote again”. Really?? Is that what we got today??? Sounds like we got a full day of temper tantrums, rule changes, and out right abuse of power. Which is what people like me expected.
Some amendments made it to the floor though, although most GOPers weren’t allowed to. Webb brought up one to only give amnesty to those who’ve been here 4+ years. Shot down. Hutchinson brought up any amendment requiring illegals to go home first. Shot down. Bond amendment brought up that would prevent illegals from getting a green card. Shot down. Dodd offered an amendment to provide more green cards for parents of citizens. Shot down. Menendez-Obama-Feingold offer an amendment to adjust the point system in favor of relatives. Shot down. Grassley is allowed an amendment but no time to debate it, then…..Shot down. A few others in there too. But basically the jist of it is, is that unless the pro-amnesty “Masters of the Universe” decided it was going to be in the clay pigeon amendment, it wasn’t going nowhere.
Finally an amendment was offered by Baucus, and it was not shot down, basically forcing a stalemate and now the Senate can’t move forward without everyone’s agreement. So it sounds like we’re moving to a cloture vote early Thursday morning, probably around 10:30 AM ET.
Cloture
So cloture passed 64 - 35 last time, so we only need 5 votes to change hands, and basically here are some of the people we’re counting on for those votes.

Yeah, so from the sounds of it all of them are on the fence, some more than others.
Some that do sound like they’re definitely switching sides include Burr, Nelson, Bond and Domenici. That brings the total voting for cloture down to 60. If just one more decides to, this thing is dead. Coleman I’m looking at you!!!
But from the sounds of it, Coleman is convinced that his precious sanctuary cities amendment is enough to make this piece of shit smell better. Guess what Norm, it’s not, get over yourself. However, if Norm does get the scent that this thing is gonna fail anyway, he’ll switch to save his political hide. Basically he’s looking out for himself and himself only here.
Several of the other Senators listed above had expressed reservations on it as well. Brownback has talked against it. Ever since people stopped donating to the National Republican Senatorial Committee, it’s head Senator Ensign has been feeling a little exposed…although word is there have been some political bribery attempts behind the scenes. Webb has waffled but it sounds like he’s leaning towards cloture.
Basically the big hitch here is alot of Senators have said they’ve vote for it only if a few amendments get voted on. Well since they couldn’t kill Baucus’ amendment, Reid got scared and they’re not going to consider any more amendments until after the cloture vote. Which means those Senators have to make a choice. Amnesty or No Amnesty.
Prediction
If I had to make a prediction, I’d say this thing is failing tomorrow. I’m not exactly alone in this prediction, but my gut tells me it’s gonna fall. Right now we’re sitting where one vote makes a difference and there are half a dozen Senators waffling.
Plus if this thing passes cloture with 60 votes, every single Senator that voted for cloture will get hit with ads claiming they were the deciding vote and decided not to kill the bill.
And if any of them get the sense that this thing is failing they aren’t gonna want to get stuck with the check and will probably vote against it as well. So it won’t just fail by one. It’ll either pass by a slim margin, or fail by several votes. But I’m sticking with that it’ll fail by several….hopefully that’s not just wishful thinking.
UPDATE : Webb just indicated he’s “definitely a probably no” on cloture. What the hell does that mean??
UPDATE : Hawkins just talked to his Senate source again, and got more info on Webb
From there, he noted that James Webb has told multiple senators that he voted in favor of the first cloture vote because he had his arm twisted, but he didn’t like how he was treated, and had no intention of voting for the second one. Still, he said don’t count Webb as a definite vote against cloture because he might get his arm twisted again.
Anyone got a spare spine they can send to him via next-day mail?? Check out the rest of Hawkins post of information he got from his source, lots of good information in there. Plus this source has generally been pretty reliable, and whoever it is I owe them at least a beer.